Isn't the trip level thread a spring ritual too? Yup! And since it's an integral part of the CAM workshop agenda, timely springtime repetition to foster understanding is a good idea, especially for novices (e.g., we picked up another dozen memberships in April). Scott C said it best at the workshop when he indicated that rather than analytically parsing the Levels 3 and 4 into subgroups the point is to offer AS MUCH INFORMATION as practicable to inform a trip. The result is that more trips will be described as Level 4, with attached raison d'etre: distance, or open exposure, chop above 2', winds above 15kn, etc. The point is that more info is better, so that paddlers can safely choose when to advance their skills safely, NOT to prevent paddlers from attending "upscaled" trips. So reading the conditions "between the levels" (for lack of better nomenclature, Scott!) for each trip becomes more important when deciding whether to attend the many Level 4 trips we will paddle.