Bill Gwynn

I agree that a R&R is easier for someone that has a roll, or maybe beginning to work on a roll. But, for someone that has zero experience rolling, the R&R would be difficult. I still teach and practice the standard paddle float re-entry. You never know when you may need it, or need to teach it to someone.

Just to elaborate on Jason's observation. The software we use keeps track of your IP address as part of it's security features. If your IP does not change, and you have selected to "Remember Me", it will automatically log you in. However if your IP changes, you will have to manually log in. In your case with your ISP changing your IP so unusually frequently it's causing you these problems. Who is your service provider and what type of connection do you use?

QUOTE(Kevin B @ Jul 9 2008, 10:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Yikes, what does that say about me? Your life is over Bud...Married, Dogs, Mortgage, etc. 2,262 posts ..oy JK of course.

Some additional thoughts on trip planning. Weather... swell size and direction, wind strength and direction are important in planning. For example, when rounding Halibut Point, with swell and wind, you need to be careful because the swell can stand up quickly as the underwater topography changes from deep to shallow. This can be either scary or fun depending on your skill level. Because this is a circumnavigation, you will at some point have the wind in your face. It seems that every time I have done this trip, that happens on the longest leg from Lands End to the Harbor entrance. It looks like that may be the case for this Friday as the current forecast is for SW winds 5-15 turning S with gusts to 20. (This is assuming you are going clockwise around). If I was planning this trip, I would consider leaving GHS in the AM sometime and going anti-clockwise riding the ebb out the canal, then for the leg from Dogbar to Lands End, you will have the wind at your back, once you are around Halibut, you can stick close to the shore to get some protection from the wind, and then ride the flood into the Annisquam. This plan will make that 20+ NM go a lot easier. Looks like a great trip...wish I could join you.

Your question was "What are the tides looking like for Cape Ann Friday?" I thought I had answered your question appropriately with the direct link answer. In an effort to be more helpful, here is some additional information. The place to be most concerned with is the Blynman Canal. The Canal is a narrow, but short (~50 feet) underpass that can have some decent current as well as lots of confusion from boat traffic. The currents for the 11th at Blynman are as follows. 0349 +2.7 knots 0601 Slack 0955 -3.1 knots 1239 Slack 1613 +3.0 knots 1827 slack 2224 -3.4 knots This information as well as currents all over the Massachusetts coast can be found here: http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/currents08/tab2ac2.html#8 Also, another source of info that every kayaker should have is Reeds Nautical Almanac. http://www.reedsalmanac.com/ This includes tides, currents, piloting, and local coastal information. Oh, and don't forget a chart of the area. If you are armed with a chart, and a Reeds, you can effectively plan a safe trip even if you have never been there before. I am not discounting the value of local knowledge, depending on the source. I have got some bad advice from supposedly good local knowledge and now more often depend on my own skills and knowledge using information readily available to plan a safe trip. Hey...this was my 1,000th post. I need to get a life.

http://www.boatma.com/tides/

It's pretty common for threads to wander off the original topic. To me, that's part of what makes message boards so popular. Often the original topic inspires additional thoughts and ideas that can be beneficial to everyone.

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He is referencing the $15.00 membership fee. But, she already is a paid member.

Harbor Sweets in Salem, MA has Sailboats and other nautical chocolates, no kayaks though. They will make anything custom if you want to break out the credit card http://www.harborsweets.com/classics.html

I hope that I didn't give the impression that anyone on the trip acted in an inappropriate way and it was somehow unsafe. Heck, I wasn't even there. If I did, I truly apologize. My intent was to help educate and make sure people understand what CAM is all about.

One more thought... CAM does not mean leaderless. Every trip should have a leader. The difference is that the leader can change as situations change. A day on the water is a fluid and ever changing thing. CAM is a great way to accommodate these changes.

Some of the things I have read here and on the trip report thread are causing me some confusion. First off, the trip participation page http://www.nspn.org/trip_participation.htm has answers to a lot of the questions. The beach briefing is one of the key steps to a CAM trip. The way that I, and I am sure many of you have always run trips whether they be S&G, CAM, old NSPN trips or whatever, is to have a beach briefing, talk about safety, conditions, weather, group management, who's the lead, who's the sweep etc. It's common sense that all of these things that we know to do, should be done. Just because we are using a new format called CAM doesn't mean we have all become mindless fools. I was not on this trip, so I can't definitively say what went wrong. But, I will however (based on what those there have written) try to help if I may. It sounds like there wasn't a beach briefing, and if there was one, it was too brief It is the responsibility of the trip initiator to get the beach briefing started. If participants feel that the format of the trip and the briefing is too loose and lacking detail, it is their responsibility to speak up and ask questions. Often it is the trip initiator that guides the democratic process both at the briefing and on the water. It sounds like the group got pretty spread out. Maybe that was because some were looking to play in the rocks/surf, and others were out for a more leisurely day. In that situation, the group should have discussed the possibility of breaking into two groups and then meeting up later on at lunch. One of the best parts about CAM, is the flexibility to change the trip as situations develop. It seems to me, that somehow people have misunderstood the meaning of CAM and think it means "every man for himself". That is completely incorrect. CAM really means "every man watches out for each other". It is a group effort where each individuals particular skills are used to benefit the group. So, let's not get caught up in blaming CAM for a trip that didn't meet someone's expectations. The blame really comes back to each individual on that trip for not speaking up and doing what common sense and experience should have dictated. When I am out on a trip, I feel responsible for every single person on that trip whether they are my best friends, or someone I have just met. If any paddler is having some difficulty due to conditions, skill level, illness, whatever, I take the the time to talk to that paddler, find out what we as a group need to do to handle the situation. To me, this is common sense, human nature. The following is from the Trip Participation Page http://www.nspn.org/trip_participation.htm "Trip Safety. Because everyone's opinion is important and because everyone is working for the common good of the group, trips are safer. Among their responsibilities, members of Common Adventure groups keep an eye out for one another. Because of the open, democratic environment, they are less apt to hold back when they see potential problems. This participatory form of safety is highly effective, certainly more effective than if only person is in charge of keeping track of the group." I think that this is a good discussion, and I am glad we are getting it posted here where most of the site traffic/activity is. I hope that my opinions have helped. Bill

Hey Rick, You are correct, that you can still have a leader with CAM. It really is just common sense. If someone knows the area well, they should be "leading" the group etc. This following two paragraphs are taken from the "Trip Participation" page: http://www.nspn.org/trip_participation.htm Trip Leadership. While on a Common Adventure trip, leadership is a fluid process. If someone knows the area, he assumes a leadership role, helping the group find their way. If there's an accident on the trip and someone has good first aid skills, they assume leadership. If a kayaker capsizes, another person may take over. Major decisions are made democratically as a group, with weight given to those with specialized knowledge. Often it is the trip initiator that guides the democratic process. In this process, everyone is able to express their opinions and shed light on the decision. By involving everyone, the group is able to tap all of its resources, making it far stronger than if one person tries to make all of the decisions. Learning on the Trip. Common Adventure trips create an ideal environment for experiential learning. There are, of course, no designated teachers, but those on the trip with more experience can share their knowledge and skills with others with less experience.

What do you mean "most" of the time I'm right? Once I thought I was wrong, but I was mistaken Seriously though, I know what you are saying. Looking at the radar right now, it looks like Gloucester is just getting it. The thing is with this typical summer weather pattern, if you go strictly by the weather forecast you may never actually get on the water. Judgement and an eye to sky is the best policy.

Looking at the hourly weather forecast, it seems that the t-storms aren't due till after 5pm, and even then, it's less than a 30% chance. It would be a shame to miss out on what looks to be a great day. As always, just use good judgment on the water and keep an eye on the sky. My 2 cents.

Turned out to be a false alarm. The kayak belonged to a local resident, it had gotten away from where it was tied up.

Empty blue SOT found at the South end of Wallis Sands in Rye, NH. Article: http://www.wmur.com/news/16715841/detail.html

This thread should answer your questions..and then some. http://www.nspn.org/forum/index.php?showto...hl=seat+removal

There's always at least a 1/2 dozen or more NSPN'ers there. The overall typical turnout is fairly small compared to other races, usually between 15 and 30 paddlers. It's a good time, you should go. Say hi to Tom for me, I can't make it this year. And, yes launch from East End Beach and paddle across to Peaks. You will land on the beach just to the left (north) of the ferry pier.

Maybe your typo'ing your username? Actually, you are the first I've heard with this issue. I do know that if your IP address changes, you will have to login again. (it's a security feature).

good one!

From Rye Harbor launch to Appledore Island is 5.9 NM. From Odiorne launch to Odiorne Point is 1.6 NM, then from Odiorne Point to Appledore Island is 5.2 NM for a total of 6.8 NM. Choose your poison and choose the right day.

Couldn't be one of us NSPN'ers. Were too smart for that! Hope I didn't speak to soon.