jason Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Deb,I applaud your efforts to separate fact from fiction regarding bears. Thank you for posting the book titles. I believe it is a wise approach to learn more about how to stay safe when in bear territory by reading the books you highlight.By the way, I did not realize bears eat babies!!! OMG!!!WarrenI was under the impression that bears where practicing toss and release with undersized humans. Sort of like we do with lobster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethS Posted April 24, 2014 Share Posted April 24, 2014 Warren et al; I just want to say thanks to all of you for providing a very amusing and educational thread, which I am following with great enjoyment. I heard quite a few "bear stories" when I was backpacking in Alaska a while back, but the Miss Clairol hair spray option is total news to me. It makes me have a certain respect for the fortitude of those women who will clearly go to great lengths for the sake of fashion, or perhaps they are just tougher than any grizzly...Now I am trying to picture a grizzly bear with "big hair"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Even the locals have to be careful:http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/10/16/forestry-worker-mauled-by-bear/This one was able to get away to tell the story:http://www.adn.com/2013/04/06/2855260/10-years-later-bear-mauling-survivor.htmlFrom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_bear_attacks_in_North_AmericaThese ones scares me the most:Kammer was in his tent at Soda Butte Campground when a mother bear attacked and dragged him 25 feet (7.6 m) away. Two other campers in separate campsites were also attacked: a teenager was bitten in the leg, and a woman was bitten in the arm and leg. The bear was caught in a trap set at the campground using pieces of a culvertand Kammer's tent.[21] Later, the bear was euthanized, and her cubs were sent to ZooMontana.[22] The mother bear's unusual predatory behavior was noted by authorities.[22]Ives was grabbed from a family tent in American Fork Canyon, and mauled. State wildlife officials killed the bear, which had entered the campsite the night before.[34] Ives' family sued the U.S. Forest Servicebecause there was no warning about the bear's presence.[35][36] A judge awarded the family $1.95 million.[37] It was the first known fatal black bear attack in Utah.[36]The Huffmans were attacked while in their tent at a campsite along the Hulahula River 12 miles (19 km) upriver from Kaktovik.[64] Two days later the campsite was discovered by three rafters while the bear was still nearby. The bear chased the rafters down the river for over half a mile until it finally gave up. Later, aNorth Slope Borough Police officer investigating the scene shot and killed the bear at the campsite.[65]A number of other campers where dragged from tents. This one looks like it was due to food in the tent:http://www.adventure-journal.com/2011/02/family-seeks-2-million-from-forest-service-after-son-killed-by-bear/Setting something like this might help one get some sleep:http://www.icebearalarm.com/ or http://www.electrobearguard.com/photo_album.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEL Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Jason:Consider the value of a LIFETIME GUARANTEE for the owner the device. Ed Lawson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Jason:Consider the value of a LIFETIME GUARANTEE for the owner the device. Ed LawsonI guess you need someone that's not on the trip to purchase it. Wonder if you get your $'s back after the bear eats it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Jason:Consider the value of a LIFETIME GUARANTEE for the owner the device. Ed LawsonAfter re-reading it it depends on black powder that one can't take it on a plane. http://safetravel.dot.gov/index_ammunition.htmlIf they were smart they would have picked something like this as the alarm noise maker:http://www.homedepot.com/p/Hilti-0-22-Caliber-Yellow-Booster-100-Pack-50398/202057637 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 Hey Jason, Over the last few days I have been emailing one of Alaska expedition buddies who is based in Anchorage. She tells me some of the people who visit Alaska have bear-a-noia. Perhaps some of our NSPN buddies suffer from this affliction? But not us?! Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I just found this article it seems very appropriate: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-enjoy-nature-without-getting-yourself-eaten-1566212588?rev=1398531761&utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflowIt covers even more than bears. It will even help with sharks (think the cape). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I just found this article it seems very appropriate: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-enjoy-nature-without-getting-yourself-eaten-1566212588?rev=1398531761&utm_campaign=socialflow_gizmodo_twitter&utm_source=gizmodo_twitter&utm_medium=socialflowIt covers even more than bears. It will even help with sharks (think the cape).I love this picture from the article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick stoehrer Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 (edited) ...She tells me some of the people who visit Alaska have bear-a-noia. ...Bearanoia - maybe. So long as the folks that visit live to leave!As attributed to Joseph Heller - Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you.You paddle with all the hugs and rainbows and leave no trace ethos you like - avoidance is perfect but barring perfection I'd have a direct response handy and probably something more than a noxious hair spray. Edited April 28, 2014 by rick stoehrer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted May 22, 2014 Share Posted May 22, 2014 Another NSPNer pointed me to this: http://www.outdoors.org/publications/outdoors/2014/learnhow/keeping-bears-at-bay.cfm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Another interesting video. (Nobody was hurt in the video).http://gearjunkie.com/black-bear-stalks-terrified-joggers-on-video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Martinsen Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 Good article... http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/history_of_innovation/2014/06/the_grizzly_history_of_bear_pepper_sprays.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 17, 2014 Author Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Two of the paddling buddies based in Anchorage just completed a 6 day journey in and around Harriman Fiord. It was a warm up trip to prepare for our PWS crossing in a couple weeks. They packed bear spray, but did not need to use it. They saw bear scat and moved to another camp site, but no bear sightings. Conditions on PWS so far appear to be superb, but will need my 15 degree synthetic bag. Seems the glaciers really can cool down the nights. Also, packing a bandana to wrap around the eyes since lots of daylight. Will be packing my head net as well, since one area had no see ems.The count down is on......Warren Edited June 17, 2014 by Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josko Posted June 17, 2014 Share Posted June 17, 2014 (edited) Are you taking along an electric fence, such as: http://www.udap.com? Edited June 17, 2014 by josko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted June 18, 2014 Author Share Posted June 18, 2014 Josko,No Electric fence in the kit. Are you taking one to Labrador?Nice survivor photo!Warren Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josko Posted June 18, 2014 Share Posted June 18, 2014 We're planning to be friends with bears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfolster Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 Found while trolling the interwebs this morning: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick stoehrer Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 mmmm....gorditas...nom, nom, nom.that's hilarious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Allen Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 just to keep the bearanoia going:http://sploid.gizmodo.com/incredible-video-of-a-cool-alaskan-brown-bear-chilling-1591999341 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 19, 2014 Share Posted June 19, 2014 How long before we read about man killed by friendly polar bear: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josko Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 See how friendly they are! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Allen Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 How long before we read about man killed by friendly polar bear: Clearly propaganda on the bears part. Did you see the company ID? "Btv" clearly stands for BearTV. So we won't run so fast when the bear comes for dinner? ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason Posted June 20, 2014 Share Posted June 20, 2014 Clearly propaganda on the bears part. Did you see the company ID? "Btv" clearly stands for BearTV. So we won't run so fast when the bear comes for dinner? ;-)I don't care what the friendly polar bear says he isn't vegan and I am on his food wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josko Posted June 23, 2014 Share Posted June 23, 2014 (edited) What klind of treats would you bring for polar bears in case you see them on a trip? Edited June 23, 2014 by josko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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