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I'm bringing this back to the top to let everyone know I've not had any more issues for the past year and ended up using some contact cement. That being said, I've come to the personal conclusion the foam lumbar pad creates a couple hotspots for me and gets my sciatic nerves firing on multi day touring. I had surgery several years ago and it can flare up from time to time, so it's likely just a personal thing I've got to deal with and not indicative of the setup itself. I think I'm going to try to install a traditional back-band at the end of the season.

A better use of words other than "rough section", might have been "things just went wrong" for a second or two. Looking back would be all it took, or simply missing the line, as already stated.

Yikes, no thanks! I've got a couple good buds who do a fair bit of creek and they talk about close calls on a semi-regular basis, like it's just part of the game. It appeared like the group wasn't anticipating a rough section and things just went south. I'd be checking my shorts after experiencing anything even remotely close to that.

Good stuff.

I managed to grab myself a Boreal Design Vaag and I'm pretty pleased so far, overall. That being said, on two different days out, the factory seat popped out, followed by the lumbar pad last night. I'd love to know what any of you might suggest as a good adhesive to use on these foam parts? I've used all sorts of products in the past from Marine Goop to different epoxies, but any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks! Pete

I find those back bands eliminate back pain, but increase headaches the next day!

Thanks very much for the info, Nate. I might take you up on trying one of your boats this summer. My son and I paddled a few days down your way last summer and it's a spot high on our list to hit again. I might also try to get in contact with Ryan as well, especially seeing he's coming this way.

Thanks very much , everyone. I'm just at the earlier phases of looking for a new boat, but the Nordkapp LV is certainly on my short list. Thanks again Peter

I've been having quite a difficult time finding a dealer for either of the companies through their websites. Does anyone have any current info on where I might be able to find either one of these companies' current offerings, ideally in Maine? Thanks very much

I prefer doing it with my Pintail, as the OC is hard enough to wiggle out of, so I can at least see what's gonna hit me This past fall, I worked a bit on back surfing/paddling into current and reacting to broaches. It tested my sense of haha more than once!

This is a great topic. I've never tried re-attaching my skirt before rolling up, but I'll throw it into my bag of things to work on. For what it's worth, I've experienced a significant difference in the amount of water I take on when performing a re-entry roll when starting being totally upside-down vs. boat being partially overturned. Can I assume you guys have come to the same conclusion?

I've got pogies from Mountain Equipment Co-op, both in touring and whitewater versions and had the same experience with the touring version. I simply roll them back to form both a cuff and so they become easier to get my hands in. It's not pretty, but it works for me. Give that try and see if it works for you.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I wasn't able to get over there this weekend, but did find a few good spots to play within a few minutes of my place on Deer island. Winds were up around 20knots with gust higher than that from the North on the flood. I found a spot to play between Pendleton and Mac's Islands where wind and current collided to create waves in the 4-6 ft range(estimate by where I was relative to crests). Some were pretty good, fairly green(if not a bit rough) waves for surfing. Behind, they were much more messy and mixed up. After watching one whale watching boat go through the channel while having to fight pretty hard to get out of the way of another whale watching boat, I decided it wasn't the best place to be alone. I was actually quite surprised at the wave height and speed, as it put me to mind of the smaller channel on the reversing falls in Saint John. Not really the best spot to be alone, but certainly worth going back to with some paddling buddies if similar conditions are present. Also went to one of my regular spots between Hardwood and Hog(I believe), where I played on the ebb working on seal launches off some rockweed-covered rocks and eddy crossings. Even worked on entering the eddy stern first. Looks like I might not make it over to Eastport this season, but will get there. Thanks again.

Being that I've got a summer place on Deer Island, New Brunswick, I often look across the Old Sow and wonder about paddling in and around Eastport. From doing a bit of net research, I noticed there's a set of tidal rapids fairly close to Eastport. Have any of you paddled it in particular and what are your impressions of the area in general? I am looking for some different play spots I could hit and be back to Deer Island within a few hours. Thanks very much, Pete

Hi guys. I've been trying to find out how much rocker the Necky Chatham17 (in composite) has in comparison to other popular boats out there. Anything from the Explorer to an Avocet, Pintail, Force3/4, Tempest 170, etc,...From what I've seen, it doesn't look like a highly-rockered boat, but if someone has had the chance to compare it to other boats, I'd appreciate any info. This isn't about how the boat handles, but rather how the boat looks. To be totally honest, I not only like how rockered boats handle, I also love the way they look. Thanks!

Two days ago, I ended up breaking my carbon Coryvrecken and am considering a new paddle while I wait for my Werner to be repaired. My thought is to try something other than another Werner, but I'd prefer the lightness of the touring blades paired up to the length of the WW bent shaft. Was wondering if anyone knows if the two lines will match up? If not, I'll either go with a WW blade, or simply get another Werner(the foam core Ikelos looks nice!) Anyone the know the answer? Thanks.

I've been looking everywhere for this stuff with no luck. Does anyone know of an on-line seller? Thanks!

I thought I would bring this to the top as it appears a similar incident took place in the last week or so up in Nova Scotia while an instructor friend was putting on a course. While performing a "all in" scenario, one of the students apparently became trapped in his capsized boat. From what I understand, he had a WW deck on his glass boat and forgot to leave his grab loop out. As result, he wasn't able to pop his deck. It wasn't immediately noticed with the scenario playing out until one of the instructors noticed he hadn't come up. From what I understand, the instructor performed a "Hand of God" rescue and started to perform compressions until they got the victim to shore where he was worked on until he came to. It was told to me it took about 10 minutes before the victim came around. The rescuer performing the initial compressions is a professional firefighter for the city of Halifax and is also a seakayak guide/instructor. While a near-drowning isn't a heart attack, it does show that it's is possible to perform compressions at sea(to my surprise). I'll pass on any info about how they were positionned and what-not when it becomes available to me.

I can't really add much to what has already been said, other than to agree with how well this boat handles the rough stuff. I also tend to find the OC a bit "challenging" at times when surf landings are a concern, but I've managed to this point without too much abuse. After having back surgery a couple years back, my ability to get into the boat has decreased a bit anyways. Regarding self-rescues, I've simply concentrated on the techniques I'd be inclined to use rather than worry about the ones I find limiting. I mean, rather than trying to do a cowboy-type self rescue, why not just learn the re-entry&roll, as there comes a point where condtions favour this sort of self-rescue. I've been amazed at how well the boat responds to techniques on a wave face. It's sometimes like the Pintail just "knows" what to do. I had 5-days worth of gear in the boat this past spring and I imagine the boat could've handle more had my packing improved. Our paddling group consisted of two Explorers and an Avocet and we were able to plug along at about 4knots, so I don't think I held anyone back too much. My boat is now my "fun boat" with an Explorer as my "tripping boat". Being that my Pintail is carbon/kevlar, it's very light and quite tough from what I've experienced. I must admit, I had thoughts of selling it a while back, but man, am I happy I didn't!

Thanks for the info guys. Truth is,I never use the skeg and have thought about cutting the box out and glassing over my Pintail , but I'm not prepared to commit to that kind of job just yet. I bought some new cable and it went fairly well.

It really wasn't me , but a buddy whom I paddle with took the skeg cable out of his Explorer and we're now having a very difficult time putting it back in. Is there a knack to this that I'm simply missing? I've replaced skeg cables in a Capella before, but this one has us stumped. Any suggestions? Thanks!

I guess I didn't get where the rescuers would be and I suppose anything would be worth trying at this point, but I would maintain the difficulty of keeping an open airway in an uncontrolled environment like the open water. I've probably performed CPR the better part of 150 times and things just don't go as smoothly as one would think. That's why getting a tube in is so critical for a number of reasons(maintains airway, pushing certain kinds of meds, continuous compressions while providing breaths). Just having a PFD might be enough to close off the airway. My sincere hope would be that if this were to take place on the water, we'd be close enough to a landing to get the patient on land and get EMS on route. But again, anything would be worth trying should this emergnecy take place.

I don't really see it working for the simple reason the surface of the deck is going to plunge deeper into the water with each compression, pretty much negating the compression in the first place. It's nearly impossible to perform CPR on a surface like a bed, so a floating boat would be very similar. As it was mentioned earlier, keeping an airway open while on the water would be very diificult as well, eventhough there is enough O2 in the bloodstream without performing breaths for a while. And the % of success are very low without defribillation within the first few minutes.

Being that I'm from Saint John, New Brunswick, I thought I'd mention the Reversing Falls right in the middle of the city. I'm not talking the main channel, but rather the smaller side channel right off the lookout. Ithink the waves are too steep for a seaboat on the low, but there is a wave train about a kilometre down river closer in the actual harbour. There are some fun spots in around Deer Island and Eastport, but I'd give the Old Sow respect. You should know the ferries' routes, though. You might want to scout some channles for old weir posts as well before running through. Low tide between Deer Island and Hardwood has a good channel that gets some half decent standing waves. The Shubenacadie in Nova Scotia is supposed to be best in the fall. And while the water is cold in the Bay, it's almost like a half season behind temp -wise. It's not that bad in the early fall, but I wouldn't play without at least a wetsuit. Good luck, Pete

My fitness training comes from crossfit(www.crossfit.com) and I follow the program quite closely. Lots of bodyweight exercises and very high intensity. I also enjoy spending time on my road(on the trainer) or mountain bike(outside).