Phil Allen

I'm using Safari on the mac. To be fair, I tried to print to a PDF which is what didn't work. I'll try a real printer and report back.

Anybody had luck printing the charts? All I get is a blank page? And on a related note, you can also get a plug-in that provides all the US nautical info for goggle earth at: http://earthnc.com It requires a free registration, but otherwise seems to work pretty well. I have no relationship with the company. Phil

I'm very interested in this kind of play/training, but it's unlikely I could make this weekend. Phil

QUOTE(Kevin B @ Jun 26 2008, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>For the early paddle, I'm planning on putting in at Nahant instead of Forest River at 2/2:30pm. and paddling over to Forest River for the session. expecting surf?

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First off, let me be clear be stating that my discussion of doing compressions on the water is HIGHLY THEORETICAL. I emphasize this not for those contributing to the thread but anyone else who might read this later. Shaila's point about airway always being #1 while on the water is right. If it's going to work, the CPR giver and the victim have to be on the same surface, hence the straddle boat idea. If my understanding of physics is correct, only when the vic and the rescuer are supported by the same boat(s) do we have any hope of compressing the chest and not just moving the boat/body up and down in the water. That said, I think the reality is that one's not going to be effective at doing compressions on the water so the only answer to the problem is to pay attention to ANY early warning signs and get off the water ASAP. Phil

about the only thing that I think could work would be two support boats on the sides of the victim/patients boat with the compression person astride the foredeck of the vics boat doing compression with the vic supported by the rear cockpit bulkehead/back deck/dayhatch. I can't imaging doing that in anything approaching lumpy, but better than not I guess. Phil

My 0.02$ worth: I think the problem is getting enough leverage for sufficient compression. CPR often breaks ribs, heimlick (which is close to what I think RickS is suggesting) doesn't usually. It's the upper body mass in CPR that drives the chest compression and the stiff arms carry that to the chest. You'd have to be quite bearlike to do it with just squeezing your arms. Phil

I will be there this week, I will, I will.... (how many times have I said that now ) any way, should Lorrie and I make it, what's the recommendation on night gear & lighting? headlamps, glowsticks, other? Phil

spoilsport

That's fine, as long as you share once we get there! Phil

I'm interested. Phil

Man Joe, that be a big fish!

OK, not going to make it. This s#%^$cks. Phil

Pre-session paddle meet time? Things have popped up in the schedule, so might not make either but in case I get lucky! Phil

I spent some time thinking about this last night (maybe too much time), and todays pics help alot. One difference between the bowline and the various sliding hitches that makes me prefer the bowline is the direction of exit of the tail. In the bowline its pointed away from the direction of pull and arguably shouldn't hang as much as other knots where it exits perpendicular to or in the direction of pull. That said, Rick's heat shrink well wrapped rope tail looks like it would solve the problem for many of the other knots. Phil PS: my preference for the bowline only applies in my case where I'm tying in to a close fit webbing connection to the carabiner. If you're directly tying into the carabiner, a knot that snugs down and minimizes sliding would be better IMHO.

Ed The fisherman's knot I know is two tailed, so are you following an overhand knot back around after the bight? Phil

John (and Mark), There's a recent TR from some folks you know who did this trip last weekend on the WildTurkeys website: http://www.wtpaddlers.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1200 Phil

Yup. You can see the 'biner and quickdraw, but not the knot/tow line on this picture of John Carmody that Jim Wilson took: (click on the image to be taken to Jim's webshot page). So can anybody tell me if there's a reason I shouldn't tie a bowline knot to join the line and the quickdraw? Phil

At a refresher course last weekend, both John Carmody and Todd Wright (instructors) had added short climbing "quickdraws" to their rescue 'biners. In climbing, quickdraws are used between two carabiners to reduce the angle of pull during a fall, so even though they're webbing, they're rated to several hundred pounds. The benefit seemed to be to separate the knot from the 'biner end and decrease the probability of jamming under the deck lines. They're cheap (3-5$) and come in different lenghts (4", 6" and 11"). I've added them to my tow system, but haven't tested them yet. Phil

Things like that cost more in my family! Hoping to arrange the schedule for the early paddle and session this week. Phil

with minor planning, weekdays are good (too many VK days to use) pallen661 at mac d0t com Phil

stuff's adding up quickly today, so I probably won't make it. Phil

Hows parking that time of day? Phil