JohnMonroe Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 John Haile and I plan to paddle out of Odiorne on the 16th. HT is 0942 and LT is 1600. We’re thinking BiB at 10. Depending on conditions we’d like to poke around and play in rocks rather than accomplish a particular route or circumnavigation. Please reply here with interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Assuming reasonable conditions, I'd be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prudenceb Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Possibly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhabich Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Lots of interesting passages through the rocks around there. I’ll be watching the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BethS Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Definitely interested, but I have an evening commitment, so I'd have to leave on the earlier side. I'll keep an eye on the weather and this thread, sounds like fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPearson Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 maybe... ...I have a new boat to try out! N Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhabich Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 2 hours ago, NPearson said: maybe... ...I have a new boat to try out! N Be sure you don’t break it in half...or in thirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Long range forecasts are for quiet ocean conditions, one foot swells with light off shore winds. The temperatures are predicted to be 22 at 10 am rising to a high around 30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPearson Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 On 12/6/2017 at 5:53 PM, mhabich said: Be sure you don’t break it in half...or in thirds. its a risk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMonroe Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 Here are some trip-planning thoughts for Saturday at Odiorne Point. Please chime in with your questions, corrections and additions. I’ve created a float-plan spreadsheet on Google Sheets. Please fill in your info, or let me know that you will not join us. I’ve emailed all of you (except Jim) a link. Jim, I’ll PM you to get your email address. You do not need a Google account for this to work. We’ll gather at the Odiorne Point boat launch parking lot, aiming to launch at 10 after considering the conditions we encounter. Windy is forecasting overnight snow ending as we’re driving in, temps in the mid-20s and northwest winds in the teens, gusting to mid-20s. Swell is approaching 3 feet. Of course, that means dry suits and neoprene gloves and headgear for water and wind chill conditions that aren’t kidding around. As a group, we will decide on our route for the day. I’m not looking to log big miles or a particular circumnavigation, though we will need to keep active to stay comfy. I wouldn’t mind looking for some conservative rock play along the way. I’m aiming to be off the water by 2, maybe 2:30. With early darkness, I won’t want to extend that. I’m guessing we will have had enough chilly fun by then anyway. Once we’re off the water, I’ll be headed to The Atlantic Grill restaurant on the way back to 95 for warm food and cold beer: 5 Pioneer Rd, Rye, NH 03870 Parking is easy and there are no shopping centers in the immediate vicinity! Breaking new boats into pieces is optional, though not recommended. OK, what did I forget? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Sounds great, John--thanks for organizing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPearson Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Hi John, thanks for organizing. As discussed, for info, High tide at Jaffery point (just by the narrow bridge on the 1B, just north of the put in) is at 09.40, low is at 16.01 Slack before ebb at little harbour entrance is at 10.09 and the maximum flow of 1.18kn being at 12.26. Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMonroe Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 At noon on Friday, I’ll put out an update on this trip: whether it’s a go or no-go based on wind chill. Please chime in with your thoughts on Thursday or Friday morning. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Thanks John. If the conditions, especially sea state, are accommodating, which they are currently projected to be, I'm in favor of launching no matter what the wind chill. My thought is that with sea conditions essentially a non-issue we can respond to the forecasted wind and wc with gear. I've found these kinds of conditions (controlling for sea state) to be a good test of gear and gauging personal comfort levels with manageable risk. It can be a cold water workshop of sorts without planned immersion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMonroe Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 I was asked last night to provide a day-before notification just in case there’s a cancellation to save people from loading boats and gear. I really want this trip to go and share your feelings about using it as a test and proving ground in familiar surroundings. John Haile and I went out on Lake Gardner yesterday for that purpose and learned several things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMonroe Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Forecast looks very good to me so I am planning to be at the put-in tomorrow for a 10am launch. If you plan to come and haven’t yet filled in the float plan, please do that today. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AP9YF1tJ1_tGq0vH_-UDRRjR4zjrPgVT8PCpHwNAauk If you decide not to come, please let me know by posting, PM or email. See you tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prudenceb Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Under the weather (cold) so no go for me. Have fun, stay safe, take photos... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverseyourself Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Did you guys end up going out? Predicted temp, wind, sea vs experienced temp, wind, sea? What were people wearing? Who except David rolled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMonroe Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Yes, we had a very enjoyable trip. The weather forecast matched the conditions very closely, though it never reached the predicted high of 32. We were wearing business casual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 17, 2017 Share Posted December 17, 2017 Great trip. Wonderful group. Fun day. Perfect weather to get out on the water when temps are tanking. Chosen course did a nice job of mitigating the negatives and optimizing the persistent west winds. Thanks for organizing John! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NPearson Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 yes, a great paddle, thanks John. For the record, Viewranger said it was 7.98 miles - didn't seem that far. did you capture anything interesting on your GoPro? Nick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted December 18, 2017 Share Posted December 18, 2017 Andy, I missed your earlier question of what we were wearing. Naturally, all were in drysuits. I'm fairly certain, all, if not the majority, were clad in balaclavas with helmets as an extra layer. At the outset rockplay down the coast to Rye was an option, but as the route shows we opted for circumnav of New Castle and Pierce. But, now that I think of it, the helmet is definitely an effective windstop. Some wore pogies, some simply gloves. A conversation throughout the paddle was the pros and cons of pogies. I once again opted for my Kokatat one piece polartec layer over a Columbia reflective primary wicking layer and a midweight Kokatat midlayer. I tried out my new NRS Maxim gloves. They use 3mm in key places and 2mm in others and are fleece-lined. They are now my go to gloves. For shoes I went with my winter approach to footwear. I purchased the NRS ATB boot in a full size larger than I normally wear. It allows me to wear a silk liner and a thicker smartwool sock. By going with the size larger and the ATB sole compression/restricting circulation and conduction are greatly minimized. The ATB has a very thick sole. Anyway, I was comfortable from head to toe. I wet-burped my drysuit at launch and lunch and then completed three very quick rolls near the takeout. Both the burping and rolls were surreal. I had no sense of cold-other than the small exposed circle of my face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverseyourself Posted December 19, 2017 Share Posted December 19, 2017 Thanks for details David! 3 layers under your dry suit. That’s what I was thinking, or rather 2-1/2: Wicking layer, then short sleeve Kokatat “thermal” for decreased arm bulk, then the same onesie you use. Ill try the Maximes at one point, I’ve really liked the Glacier Gloves earlier this year. Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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