prudenceb

Once upon a time I used to faithfully wash my boats after use. I did so even in the winter on the roof of my car. Then once I went to a car wash in the winter and washed it off and the boat froze to the roof. I pulled the straps hard and the boat finally came off. Unfortunately it came off with force and flew off the roof of the car and broke my mirror off. The boat was undamaged though which was a lucky thing. Of course it was a lot of money to fix the mirror. Instead I just screwed it back on and it made the wind whistle through the car horrendously as it was a Subaru. The screws rusted and looked ugly and I sold the car, which was a good thing.

Ever since that winter episode, I never, ever, even consider washing off any of my boats.

Szu

Yeah, but just think how much better acclimated you'll be for those cold water paddles!

No gasp reflex and 20 pounds lighter - what could be better!

pru

\\snopes.com, which flushes out fake photos etc, gives "true" status to this photo - which comes pretty close to certifying that it is, indeed, real -

pru

How do you subscribe to get the hard copy? In going to the link, it looks as though it will accept only subscriptions with UK address - as in asking for county and postal code.

pru

I'm not enthralled at prospect of paddling in conditions as forecast for tomorrow - so unless a radical change for the better, I'll hope for a calmer day and another inspiration by Bill (or others) to suggest a trip another late fall/early winter day!

pru

I also would prefer saturday to friday - some of us have to work that day! (ugh!)

pru

I don't have suggestions on where to go, but may well be interested in joining if a group does form up.

prudence

A very fun day indeed. Fun and education, pretty much an unbeatable combination - thanks to everyone!

prudence

NE Seacoast Paddlers "Meetup" will have Cheri & Turner at a couple of pool sessions over the winter and a couple of lake sessions at Pawtuckaway in the Spring. Nothing has been scheduled yet but 1 hour semi private or private instruction will be available. They are the best Greenland teachers I know of in this part of the country.

At the next Board Meeting I will discuss the possibility of having Cheri & Turner come to one of the NSPN pool sessions we will be hosting at UNH in January, February or March on Sundays. If other people have an interest in this, let me know soon.

Doug

Count me in and I'm with the other little guys (gals) in requesting three, not two, hours - prudence

For people newer to cold water paddling, I would highly recommend these sessions. I just attended Suz' talk-workshop at CRCK a few weeks ago and found it really helpful. I bought a dry suit (15% off - not bad!) and immediately headed for Maine, where armed with proper gear and some knew knowledge, felt a lot more comfortable out in the nippy water than I would have otherwise.

Look forward to learning/experiencing more!

prudence

Car on the fritz! Can't make it - but will look forward to reading the trip report.

pru

Just looked at NOAA, which has forecast pretty windy from noon onward on Sunday. I'll check again, too, in am and if too windy/bumpy, I'll take a pass.

prudence

I may want to go, too - prudence

I'd up that ibuprofen to 600 mg three times a day - prudence

I may be interested for next wknd as well -

pru

That can be fixed with a spray skirt so you don't have to worry about a little splashing.

But don't put on a spray skirt until you've had some experience - close to shore - in wet exiting!

As a newcomer to nspn, and wanting to learn as much as I can from the clearly very experienced paddlers in the network, I just want to say that I have appreciated reading all of the posts regarding this difficult trip. As others have said, I'm glad everyone made it back OK. It seems pretty certain that the wide dissemination of information about this "private" trip will end up helping everyone - both those who come up with plans and those such as myself who sign up to participate. I know that I will be more careful about realistically assessing my abilities and comfort level on trips that get us farther away from shore.

So I would particularly like to thank the trip participants, who've opened up the dynamics of a difficult day for all of us to learn from.

pru

I have two separate systems for two boats. Here is the link for the information:

http://www.nspn.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=7312

And either of them can lift the boat up from the car top or the garage floor.

Gene - I'll be in touch after I've talked to my contractor - how do I reach you? - other than on this continuing thread?

pru

I have every hope of being there = pru

Drilling into a concrete ceiling and setting expansion bolt anchors should be no problem: they can hold way way way more weight that 55 lbs.

I have all the fixings for setting anchors in concrete: Hilti hammer drill, expansion bolts, tamper rod, et. If you're handy and plan to have go at it yourself, let me know. With the right equipment , its a very fast job.

Hi Peter - Nope, handy I'm not! I'm gonna need help on this one - thus, my contractor friend who will only need instruction on what I want.

Thanks!

pru

I have used the Harken Hoister product for two kayaks in my old garage and highly recommend them. Unlike rafters you can place the hangers (four for each boat) exactly where you need them. Drilling into concrete with a 3/16 to 1/4 " diameter hole could be done with an ordinary drill and masonary bit but would go much faster with a hammer/drill. Anchors would be placed in the holes with adhesive and then the hangers screwed into the them. If it was me it would give me the excuse to purchase the ram/drill, otherwise any contractor could do the job for you. If you want to use the Hoister system I have two of them for sale at half price.

http://www.hoister.com/selection.php

This sounds as though it may be the ticket. Does this system work such that you hoist the boat either directly from the car top or from the floor of the garage? And if it is indeed installable in a concrete ceiling per your instructions, I would definitely be interested in purchasing yours. How much? You say you have to "of them" for sale - does this mean two complete systems for two boats, or enough for one, or what? prudence

OK, so now I have this wonderful new boat - 17' 6" - and it won't fit in the basement for winter storage. I have a small one car garage that has concrete walls and ceiling and fits my Honda Civic and not much else. But there is space above the car. Does anyone have any experience with buying or designing/building a pulley stem to hang a kayak from a concrete ceiling? I've seen a product online that purports to pull kayaks and canoes up for ceiling storage, but it requires studs/rafters.

What do I know about concrete? Nothing! Could a fastener of some sort set into concrete even hold a 55 pound boat?

If anyone has managed to do what I'm hoping to do, any advice would be appreciated. I have a clever contractor friend who would be able to do the construction if he had any guidance in what to do. Thanks for any help!

prudence

Terrific photos and narration. What a trip - and how nice for the rest of us to at least see some of what you did.

A terrific paddler, narrator and photographer all in one, apparently!

prudence

I'd like to try and make it too! I had my first rolling lesson this past weekend and need practice before my next lesson. Almost there with it too...

Wow! Congrats!

prudence

Pru, what boat did you buy? Was it the Tiderace Explore that had been posted? Would be happy to help you learn a few more of those Greenland rolls-if I can successfully demo them...

yup! and I tried your version of the butterfly roll and it worked...mostly!