Kevin B (RPS Coach) Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 While indulging in our other obsession known as disc golf in Amesbury today, we came across a tree that had recently been struck by lightning. The lightning had hit the top of a (100ft?) pine tree and had carved out a line in the bark that wound its way around the entire trunk of the tree, all the way into the ground. At one point, it went under the bark and left it in place but the char marks allowed you to still follow its path. Now, let's relate it to kayaking...don't get hit by lightning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 QUOTE(Kevin B @ Jun 28 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>While indulging in our other obsession known as disc golf in Amesbury today, we came across a tree that had recently been struck by lightening. The lightening had hit the top of a (100ft?) pine tree and had carved out a line in the bark that wound its way around the entire trunk of the tree, all the way into the ground. At one point, it went under the bark and left it in place but the char marks allowed you to still follow its path. Now, let's relate it to kayaking...don't get hit by lightening Well I noticed my first lightEning strike my beard, followed a few years later by streaks of lightEning throughout my scalp...of which I still hope to have after Kev sees this! (Got here first, Geoffrey!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scamlin Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE(Kevin B @ Jun 28 2008, 08:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>While indulging in our other obsession known as disc golf in Amesbury today, we came across a tree that had recently been struck by lightening. The lightening had hit the top of a (100ft?) pine tree and had carved out a line in the bark that wound its way around the entire trunk of the tree, all the way into the ground. At one point, it went under the bark and left it in place but the char marks allowed you to still follow its path. Now, let's relate it to kayaking...don't get hit by lightening Kevin: I've seen that same spiral path of a lightening strike on two differnet trees (one in Maine and one on the Baltic coast in Sweden). In both cases, it was a pine, and in the case of the one that was recent you could see light brown wood about 1/8" wide where the lightening had blown off the bark all the way down (probably due to instant steam production). On both, the line went into the dirt and you could see the disturbed soil it had entered the ground (more steam explosions I assume). The path completed at least two and maybe three complete turns around the trunk as it came down. But why the spiral? Why not a direct or at least wiggly path to the ground? My first thought was the spiral growth pattern of branches on pines, but I'd have to confirm the species involved were indeed spiral. Other theories? Scientists, professional and amateur, please enlighten us. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin B (RPS Coach) Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Kevin: I've seen that same spiral path of a lightening strike on two differnet trees (one in Maine and one on the Baltic coast in Sweden). In both cases, it was a pine, and in the case of the one that was recent you could see light brown wood about 1/8" wide where the lightening had blown off the bark all the way down (probably due to instant steam production). On both, the line went into the dirt and you could see the disturbed soil it had entered the ground (more steam explosions I assume). The path completed at least two and maybe three complete turns around the trunk as it came down. But why the spiral? Why not a direct or at least wiggly path to the ground? My first thought was the spiral growth pattern of branches on pines, but I'd have to confirm the species involved were indeed spiral. Other theories? Scientists, professional and amateur, please enlighten us. Scott Scott, Interesting. Your description matched exactly what I observed in Amesbury. I'm curious to see what responses your question generates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick stoehrer Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 QUOTE(Kevin B @ Jul 9 2008, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Scott, Interesting. Your description matched exactly what I observed in Amesbury. I'm curious to see what type response your question generate. the internet really can make you a smarty-pants.... "Most lightning scars in trees follow the longitudinal axis of the xylem cells (wood grain). Xylem grain orientation develops based on mechanical loading in trees applied through bending and torque (twist). Some trees have straight grain, and some have unequal wind forces applied to their crowns (lopsidedness), causing xylem grain to spiral down the stem. Lightning scars can spiral down the stem following the longitudinal spiral pattern of the xylem elements. The initial electrical flow along the grain offers the least initial electrical resistance within a tree" http://www.isa-arbor.com/publications/arbn...4/feature2.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruguru Posted July 9, 2008 Share Posted July 9, 2008 the internet really can make you a smarty-pants....Yeah...and even mysteriously fix Kevin's spelling! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin B (RPS Coach) Posted July 9, 2008 Author Share Posted July 9, 2008 Yeah...and even mysteriously fix Kevin's spelling! Wise *ss! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scamlin Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 the internet really can make you a smarty-pants.... "Most lightning scars in trees follow the longitudinal axis of the xylem cells (wood grain). Xylem grain orientation develops based on mechanical loading in trees applied through bending and torque (twist). Some trees have straight grain, and some have unequal wind forces applied to their crowns (lopsidedness), causing xylem grain to spiral down the stem. Lightning scars can spiral down the stem following the longitudinal spiral pattern of the xylem elements. The initial electrical flow along the grain offers the least initial electrical resistance within a tree" http://www.isa-arbor.com/publications/arbn...4/feature2.aspx Thank you professor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayakmom Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Our Fir tree was hit by lightning a few years ago. We had a tree expert come and see if it was still healthy or if we needed to cut it down. He told us that the lightning spiraled up the tree from the ground. It spirals twice around and we can see the exit point half way up the tree. The lighting is attracted to the moisture in the tree, a good conductor, the ground was wet from rain and maybe the rabbit cage, also a conductor. We still have the tree 10 years later, healthy as can be! The rabbit survived also, with maybe another streak of white fur! Kevin: I've seen that same spiral path of a lightening strike on two differnet trees (one in Maine and one on the Baltic coast in Sweden). In both cases, it was a pine, and in the case of the one that was recent you could see light brown wood about 1/8" wide where the lightening had blown off the bark all the way down (probably due to instant steam production). On both, the line went into the dirt and you could see the disturbed soil it had entered the ground (more steam explosions I assume). The path completed at least two and maybe three complete turns around the trunk as it came down. But why the spiral? Why not a direct or at least wiggly path to the ground? My first thought was the spiral growth pattern of branches on pines, but I'd have to confirm the species involved were indeed spiral. Other theories? Scientists, professional and amateur, please enlighten us. Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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