GCosloy- I am currently in a Scorpio LV, which is way to big for me. I have done quite well rolling this boat inspite of the thigh braces barely being on my knee...in fact i tend to slide out from under them when trying to slow down my roll. So i have to have a fast roll which is not what i really want for my Greenland rolls. But if i don't i loose the momentum. Then it's a struggle to finish the roll. In a friends Tiderace Excite it was a snap, thigh braces on the thigh... hallelujah! So no sliding around , no slipping, a joy. So this has brought me into the shopping frame of mind. I want a boat that i can tour with, camp with and progress with Greenland rolls as well. Hope there is a boat that will do it all.