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A "rule" I've heard is less than 60o water, wetsuit, less than 50o drysuit. As other's have pointed out there's lots of personal variability to this. I've worn the drysuit on expedition type trips with waters in the high 50's but air in the 50's as well.
Phil
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Some of you know I'm a bit of a geek, so I found this interesting:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57620573-1/custom-3d-printed-kayak-is-a-homemade-work-of-art/
not quite commercially practical, but you can imagine the future. Design you own boat, change the design of an existing boat to fit your size and weight.....
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being able to quickly join back together a broken paddle shaft on on overnight or multi day trip would make it a valuable repair kit item , worth taking along.
with that in mind, might be worth packing both the tape and a "splint". For backcountry ski trips I take a piece of 18" long aluminum bar (maybe 1/4 by 1/2" dimensions) for pole repair etc.
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Don't forget the humble blackfly, either. Several folks on the newfoundland trip last summer were worried that customs was going to deny them re-entry as their swollen hands, neck and faces made them look like stars in some communicable disease horror movie.
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Rob-
Don't beat up on John. As many have said, your cold hands and feet could have been due to core temp, or your choice of restrictive clothing and foot wear (the neoprene socks). I'm glad you figured it out for you on that day. We are all different in our tolerances to hot and cold.
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I'm debating getting an Outex cover for an older large sensor camera and using that for better images on the water. For those who haven't heard of them, it's basically a condom for the camera, with glass lens and back ports. Alex Boyd Peskin (Chicago paddler) has gotten some great shots with one.
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I'm still waiting for the industry to give us something with a decent gasket and a decent lens.
kate
Nikon actually has a largish sensor (1") water-resistant camera with interchangeable lenses that allows one to shoot raw & JPG. Be aware that some folks on the web have had issues with water penetration through an overly compressed lens gasket.
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Actually Rob, I'd say that the first signs of potential hypothermia are the grumps. Just like some people get hangry when their blood sugar drops, many get cranky when their core starts getting cold.
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Hi Rob-
After lunch, food calories and the cag would have kept you warmer overall. It's likely you were cold, and the blood flow was being shunted away from your extremities, an early indicator you could be on the way to hypothermia. That said, cold hands and feet could just be a symptom of restricted blood flow from clothing (tight gaskets and tight overstocks) with an absolutely fine core temp. Only you know what's right for you, so use what you know.
An aside, did you mention to your paddling partners your issues with being cold? Often, they're the best judge of our condition when we're on the hypothermia slide.
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I've used the panasonic TS series. First couple died over a year or two, with I expect salt water corrosion (even with washing in fresh etc). Made a neoprene slip case for the latest and it seems to be holding up better (2 years now I think). If you want batteries to last a while, turn off all the extraneous features like GPS, compass, WiFi.
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and just to be more clear Jen is a BCU L5 coach. ;-)
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I'd say it's hard to have conversations or share a snack if everyone is wrapped up in their individual bivy sacks. I guess it depends on what one looks for in shelter. If I know the odds were good that I might spend the night out the bivy would be my choice. If I and my buddies needed a quick snack out of the rain then the hut is the way to go.
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Hi Rob-
Interesting points. Do you bring that entire list on your winter paddles? Seems like there's quite a bit of redundancy, particularly when it comes to shelter.
If I'm paddling with a group of competent paddlers i.e not expressly leading, my winter kit is:
1 pair hat and mittens for shore, often stuffed in my drysuit when paddling
1 synthetic fill oversized coat, and if it's above freezing my storm cag
1 pair synthetic puffy pants (for inside the drysuit if I need to sit a long while)
2 pair of neoprene hood/beanie and 2 pair gloves
1 pair of pogies
1/2 of a thermaridge pad (sit pad)
an extremely small and light weight bivy
two contractor size garbage bags
1 compact 4 person shelter
1 large thermos of hot tea or a jetboil like stove
reusable heat packs (4)
The best way to treat hypothermia is to manage exposure so that you don't get cold. Lots of breaks, lots of snacks, hot food and hot liquids. And If everyone has a hypo kit then you can use the cold persons gear to warm them.
And it's just me, but I really think that down gear is unlikely to stay dry when used in an emergency scenario during paddling. I can't see down really keeping it's loft wrapped around a paddler who took too long a swim.
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Like every issue before it (that I've seen anyway) the final was full of useful and insightful writing. And an excellent review of Nick Schade's Petrel Play.
Also sad.
Phil
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is a "Zdarsky hut" what the Brits call a Bothy bag or sometimes an nylon Igloo? Lightweight multi person floor-less shelter? If so, I carry both the multi person shelter and a very light weight bivy bag in the winter. The Bothy is great for a quick group warm up out of the wind. The bivy (along with a puffy coat, puffy pants, hat and mittens) is for me if I have to sit for more than a short while.
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I'm going with your longer waterline length allowed a greater top speed before having to overcome the bow wake. BUT I forget the math/physics to justify my answer. Getting old ain't for wimps.
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Lot of 'beliefs' in that statement for an engineer, Leon ;-) . All these tools have their place and I believe that not one has the ability to most efficiently deal with all circumstances. Being able to use multiple methods keeps you efficient and safe.
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an addition to Johns method if you've got long crossings with multiple current velocities over time is to add all the current vectors (distance and direction) to your start position. The heading from the end of the sum of your current vectors to your destination is your average heading for the duration. Good news is its a lot simpler than dealing with different ferry angles through out the day. Bad news is it doesn't give a good estimation of your local position should you need to report it.
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I use it when storing the boat or if the weather has gone crap on a drive. I always tether it some how as the first one disappeared on a drive. But as Suz mentions, they're a pain if you don't have two folks to load/unload the boat from the car.
If you're planning on putting gear up in the cockpit, keep an eye on the weight and the limits of your car rack. Nothing worse than the whole thing stopping on the road behind you (or in the windshield of the car behind you).
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not sure if this helps, but you can download the pdf for that chart and print it yourself
the link is:
http://www.charts.noaa.gov/PDFs/13270.pdf
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Nice bow stall, but you're supposed to pop back up!
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This just came across MIT's paddling list serve. Be careful out there.
From San Fran last thursday:
On 1/13/2014 at 12:44 PM John Boeschen <> wrote:?Grandpa got run over by a freighterPaddling home from Red Rock Thursday eve?-inspired by ?Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer,? Randy Brooks 1979"Oh merde," this a loose translation of an expletive heard on the bayThursday night.The Mayor and I are 0.8 miles west of Red Rock returning to Jailhouse. Thetime's 8 PM. We're paddling on the south side of the Richmond-San RafaelBridge just inside the outer fringe of light thrown out by the bridge.We're crossing the shipping channel.Paddling side-by-side in the channel, we?re musing on the invisibility offreighters and tankers at night, their bow lights no more visible than theworkings of big government. We're not just musing, mind you, we'rescanning north and south for the big ships, looking for their tell, shorelights winking on and off when the big vessels pass between our line ofsight and the shore.This is how we've been able to spot the big guys these last 15 years. Butnot tonight. Tonight we don't see her until she's 10 seconds away fromT-boning us. We're able to see her only because she's just entered theouter fringe of the bridge's light fall.That first brief sighting is our ?Oh merde? moment. It could?ve been theTransAmerica Pyramid towering over us, the sheer shock of what we seeindiscriminate. But it?s not the TransAmerica Pyramid and we don?t wastetime staring.The Mayor bolts straight ahead, acting on pure survival instinct, hopingto cross in front of the freighter before he's T-boned. My survivalinstinct kicks in, too, but mine is colored by an overlay of law andorder: maritime protocol says not to cut in front of another boat.I back-paddle, painting by the numbers, staying within the lines ofprotocol. I'm not going to cross in front of that freighter. The Mayor,not bound by numbers and more of an Expressionist, paddles across thoselines and past the freighter to safety. I do not.I might've made it to safety if I'd continued paddling backwards. Instead,I try to turn my boat around. My boat's quick, nimble, maneuverable. Butnot quick, nimble, and maneuverable enough to accomplish in 2 seconds whatnormally takes 5 seconds. The 154-knot wake from the freighter's bow hitsme broadside.Hanging upside down under water, here's the first thought to pop into mynoggin: airbags are a good invention. The second thought to pop into myhead's more image than thought: a line of bold Tibetan script, inked darkon handmade paper. I'd seen both the script and the paper earlier thatafternoon in a Buddhist institute dedicated to Tibetan language andresearch in Berkeley. I don't know how the Tibetan translates, just thatits image is calming, reassuring.A huge freighter is passing within reach, and I'm feeling calm andpeaceful. Imagine that. I don't rush to pull my sprayskirt off and swim tothe surface. Walking my fingers around the outside of the coaming, feelingthe texture of the sprayskirt, is pleasing. Sensual. It's a slow walk myfingers take. By the time they converge on the release loop at the skirt'shead, my lungs have had enough Tibetan bliss and are clamoring for air.On the surface, my lungs happy, I'm a paddle length away from the ship'shull, a long unbroken train of metal. Under water, I wondered if the shipwould pull me further down and toward her keel line. She didn't. On thesurface, I wonder what'll happen when the stern goes by, what mischief theturning props have in mind. The stern goes by without mischief. I'mthankful for that.The freighter continues on her course, none the wiser of what's justtranspired, of me bobbing in the cold water, of the Mayor?still in hisboat, untouched by the freighter's bow wake?paddling to my rescue.Business as usual.The Mayor finds me quickly. Business as usual now is to get me back intomy boat. Accomplishing this is a simple rescue technique: the T-rescue.Position the swamped boat at a right angle to the cockpit of the rescuer'sboat. Push down on the stern of the swamped boat so its bow goes up ontothe rescuer's cockpit. Make sure the cockpit of the swamped boat is facingdown so the water runs out. Slither out of the bay into the boat, pump outany remaining water, paddle home, and Bob?s your uncle. Simple.No major storms the last 12 months have left Toilet Bowl Beach on Red Rockfirewood-challenged. To compensate, I bring kindling from home. Squeezingthe kindling into the small-volume stern of my 14-foot-long boat requiresreleasing air from the stern float bag. An inflated float bag displaces avolume of water equal to its own volume. A deflated float bag doesn'tdisplace any water.I don't inflate my stern float bag before leaving Red Rock for Jailhouse.My bad. Instead of handling a boat only partially filled with water, theMayor has to handle a boat overwhelmed by water (to my credit, the floatbag in my bow is fully inflated). A gallon of bay water weighsapproximately 8 lbs 6 oz. I don't know how many gallons, but my swampedboat holds a backache's worth.No matter our efforts, whenever we right the partially drained boat?hulldown, cockpit up?the boat sinks below the water's surface, an infinitypool across the cockpit. I attempt to climb in, the boat sinks deeper. Andso it goes.The water's cold, barely breaking 50 degrees Fahrenheit. I've only been in15-20 minutes, but I'm starting to fatigue, starting to feel sluggish.(Without the 10 lbs of insulation I put on over the holidays, I might nothave lasted as long as I did.) My lips a robust blue, we call it quits,call the Coast Guard on the Mayor's VHF.The Coast Guard arrives 10 minutes later, but the Larkspur ferry beatsthem to the rescue, plucking me from the bay 5 minutes earlier. Though hedoesn't need the lift, the Coast Guard hauls the Mayor aboard their vesselalong with my boat, pulled from the bay by three fit crew members.The crew of both boats treat us graciously and professionally,transporting us to the Larkspur ferry terminal, staff from the terminaldriving us to our cars at Jailhouse. We can't sing their praises loudenough.So ? what did I learn from our adventure? Here're some initial thoughts:If, like mine, your boat doesn't have bulkheads separating bow and sternfrom cockpit, use float bags and keep them inflated. To add an extra layerof immersion security, I'm going to experiment using a sea sock to limitthe amount of water my boat takes on.Carry a VHF marine radio. Calling the Coast Guard on channel 16 cut shortthe time the water had hold of me. On future paddles to Red Rock, I planto call the port authority on channel 14 to check for ships approachingthe Richmond-San Rafael Bridge, backing that up with channel 13 to contactthe bridge of ships heading our way.I have an app on my iPhone, Ship Finder, that tracks ships on the bay inreal time. I didn't use it Thursday. I will on future paddles.The Mayor and I might have seen the freighter earlier if we had beenpaddling closer to the bridge, more light from the bridge illuminating thebay around us.From what I experienced up close with the freighter, I think it a rareevent when a large ship actually collides head-on with a kayak, the ship'sbow wake pushing the kayak aside before the bow strikes it. For closeencounters like mine?2 to 5 feet from the approaching ship's bow?I'd guessthe shorter the boat, the less likely a collision.I experienced no sucking vortices at the ship's bow and stern, wasn'tpulled under the hull, or chewed up by propeller blades. That was good. Idon?t know if these outcomes are true in all encounters. I do know that Idon?t intend to field test their validity any time soon.Have a good story prepared before going home and explaining to your familyhow you managed to get run over by a freighter.StatsDate: Thursday, 9 January 2014.Distance: Not all the way.Speed: Shocking.Time: Passed by in a flash.Spray factor: Manufactured.Dessert: Apple slices dipped in melted semi-sweet chocolate.[/indent]
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I read a really great book over the holidays " Longitude: The True Story of a Lone Genius Who Solved the Greatest Scientific Problem of His Time" by Dava Sobel. Covers the history and sociology of the quest to find one's longitude at sea. It's not a new book (2007) but I found it quite enjoyable.
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re: sighting compasses (mirrored sight for getting bearing to landmark). I've had the mirrored backing corrode off in a season or two from constant salt water immersion and drying.
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At what time of year do you stop wearing a drysuit?
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Hey Dan-
I think that there are numerous folks here who including me who, in hindsight, think they should have skipped the wetsuit and gone directly to the drysuit. Usually I keep the drysuit on until its time for shorts and t-shirts.
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