leong Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Ha ha, I tried Leon Sommé’s "Deep Diggity Dig" today. I'm such a clutz ... I capsized but at least it showed that my combat roll is still working.-Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Allen Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 Hi Leon-It should work really well at home right now assuming you can get enough speed through the ice. Pack ice makes the blade even more supportive when you're on edge, assuming the blade is well centered and doesn't slip off said ice Joking aside, did you try it into oncoming current? Looks like the submerged blade is getting more lift by being sliced into the current across the eddy line. Still looks like another way to get wet to me (which will be good come July or August).bestPhil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leong Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 Phil,At max flood tide at the Palm Beach Inlet the current flows at about 3 knots. At the bayside entrance to the inlet there are eddies that form near shore where the incoming flood tide turns left (south) or right (north) as the water comes into the bay. In this aerial view the top is looking west, Palm Beach is on the south side of the inlet and Singer Island on the north side.But there isn’t much of a countercurrent like in the video, just much slower water in the eddy. Perhaps that’s the problem, yeah, that’s it, I’m not a clutz. When I started doing a stern rudder at the south-west corner of the inlet I lost all lift as I leaned over far like in the video. Some hard ice would have helped. -Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverseyourself Posted February 26, 2015 Share Posted February 26, 2015 (edited) Now try the Haghighi, Leon ! Edited February 26, 2015 by Inverseyourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leong Posted February 26, 2015 Author Share Posted February 26, 2015 Now try the Haghighi, Leon !The Haghighi, hmm. I think I could do the first part (the reverse sweep). I’d better practice my roll a little more for the second part (returning the blade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHuth Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 One thing Leon seems to do in that video is lean way back as he's executing it, so that the recovery is a hip-snap. I still don't understand the blade position in that maneuver. Can someone explain how he positions the blade? Is it mainly a support position - or is it an honest-to-god steering stroke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverseyourself Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) The blade enters the current with its face perpendicular to it and initially does not have a climbing angle as it gets support from being grabbed by the strong current. It then needs a little bit of a climbing angle and it looks to me that there is a small amount of sculling involved to avoid flipping. The lean back is to lower the center of gravity, I guess. I also see the recovery as a hip-snap. Edited February 28, 2015 by Inverseyourself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHuth Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 OK....so I'm starting to see how that thing works. Something like this: (?)As you start to cross the eddy line, the flow from oncoming current will start to torque the bow downstream, the blade is then acting like a brake/backstroke on the side of the oncoming current and also helps get the turn started - the lean reduces the wetted hull area and lets the turn you've initiated keep going, and the lean-back keeps you from tipping over more - at this point, the blade acts more like a support, and sets up the hip snap to regain position. That's very dynamic and looks like it depends a lot on timing. I'd get wet for sure the first 120 times I try it, but worth adding to the "I gotta try this" list once the water gets warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHuth Posted February 28, 2015 Share Posted February 28, 2015 Can't figure out how to edit my post - I watched the video again - Leon clearly states that it starts out as a stern rudder position, and then it move toward the bow - it looks like the blade ends up next to the body, and then it looks like he draws it back again like the end of a roll that accompanies the hip-snap. That's kinda-sorta-maybe...how I see it happening. It's going to take some time to figure this creature out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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