Alex Debski Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Any interest in paddling from Odiorne on 2/17? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 Probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'm interested, Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mford Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 I'm interested Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted February 2, 2018 Share Posted February 2, 2018 Mark (Mford) lives nearby and on a recent trip pointed out a lot of alternative launch sites in the harbor. might be nice to try a different spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Definite interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Debski Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 Hi Everyone, This paddle will be moved to Sunday 2/18 because of Saturday’s event in Gloucester. The plan is Isle of Shoals on Sunday- but circum nav gerrish is back up in case of weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I'm a little confused about "Saturday's event in Gloucester" since the trip was to be out of Portsmouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I can't paddle on Sunday, so would still like to consider paddling on Saturday. Long-range forecast is for a Canadian cold front to bring temps just below freezing, with 8 knot winds / 15 knot gusts out of the southwest. Portsmouth options: Gerrish Island Circumnavigation: High tide is around 12:00-12:30pm, and the channel is navigable for only about 1 hour either side of HT. The current through the culvert flows N on the flood and S for the ebb, so a late-morning Kittery launch would ride us through the culvert and should give us plenty of water through the marsh. Only issue with this plan is that the ocean-side return might be into the wind at points, but will depend on how west or how south it actually comes from. Either way, it is forecast to be less than 10 knots steady, and gusts to 15 knots will be annoying but manageable. Going counterclockwise, we would need to be entering the marsh by noon-ish at the latest. It is about 5 miles to Brave Boat Harbor, plus a stop for lunch, puts us at about a 9:30am launch time. Downside to this trip is the wind might funnel through the marsh and Chauncey Creek, and may feel (or actually be) stronger than forecast. Newcastle Island Circumnavigation: Max flood at Fort Point is 10:42am with slack at 2:00pm, so a launch from Peirce Island will most likely see us fighting current at the beginning for an early launch, at the end for a late launch, and both for a mid-morning launch. Peirce Island boat ramp also has a $10 per vehicle parking / launching fee for kayakers. Odiorne has the same issue, but current at the launch location is slightly more manageable than Peirce. I don't recall any currents at the Kittery Launch, but getting to and from New Castle will require crossing the Piscataqua - doable but a challenge. One benefit of this trip is that it puts most of the challenge at the beginning of the trip (into the wind and crossing Piscataqua near max), while making for an easier return (wind to our back and Piscataqua at slack or beginning of ebb). Wallis Sands: Swell forecast is for a measly 6", but with an 11 second period. Not an epic rock-hoping day, but definitely good for working on timing for anyone with a plastic boat or those who don't care about a few scratches on fiberglass. Definitely not a boat-breaking day at all!! Fight the wind on the way down and get a ride back, but the beach is exposed to a SW wind, so finding a warm spot for lunch might be a challenge. Here is a very unique idea: Set up a shuttle and paddle from Wallis Sands to Odiorne or Peirce. We would have the wind pushing us up the coastline as we play in whatever swell we can find, we lunch at either Odiorne Point or on New Castle, and ride the last of the flood up to Peirce (slack at 2:25pm) or into Odiorne boat ramp. We could leave the majority of the cars at Wallis Sands, and leave two cars at the end. I have a 4-boat trailer, so can carry a total of six boats (two on the car) and a couple of passengers, plus one other vehicle that can carry a couple of boats should be enough to get everyone and their boats back to Wallis Sands. Shuttle will take less than 15 minutes each way. If we pay to park at Peirce, it would be good to split the cost among the entire group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 There's a parking lot and launch at the lighthouse on Newcastle that I have been intending to try. I'm told it's quiet in the winter and no fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Volkman Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I would be up for your Gerrish circumnav or your Wallis to Odirorne shuttle. I haven't been in current since last October and am rusty. I've never crossed the Piscataqua but have been told it's some of the fastest current in the area. For me a mistake on my ferry angle and an out of boat experience in 40 degree water to start the trip is not what I'm interested in. As this is CAM, if the rest of the group prefer the Newcastle Island circumnav there is always another weekend for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 Jim, there are two areas that I think might be what you speak of. One is a town park that might be gated for the winter (it is "officially closed" during the winter). The other is closer to the light house and is part of a UNH research facility - signs indicate resident stickers required and otherwise looks to be an officious area. I would suggest caution and potentially reaching out to someone in an official capacity to find out if the area is usable. Karen, maximum flood current for the crossing from Kittery to New Castle is about 1.5 knots at 10:45am on Saturday. There are no hard eddies to cross into the current, and dropping out along New Castle is uneventful just yards north or Fort Point. It can be a little swirly along the shore, but it is definitely manageable. I personally would aim to go around the south end of New Castle and enjoy the ride up through Little Harbor up to the inner islands or Four Tree Island (at the top of Peirce Island) for lunch, then use the changing tide to make for an easy trip back down and across the Piscataqua without having to fight the current again. But again, this overall trip option is not optimal as it pits us against both wind and current right at the beginning, but the worst is over in an hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Volkman Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Sorry, I don't know the area. Are you talking about launching from Piscataqua River Public Boat Ramp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Kittery Point Wharf at Pepperell Cove. Just east of Fort McClary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 I'm in for a paddle out of the general area on Saturday. I'll defer to the group's decision. I'll watch for details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Saturday's forecast has modified, and may continue to do so over the next day or so as the weather pattern is accelerating. Winds are now from the NW instead of the SW, which means benefits of running up the coast with the wind are gone, but also means we will get some protection from land. Here is what I am thinking about: - Piscataqua runs NW at Kittery - to - New Castle crossing, which puts flood directly opposing wind and could get a bit bumpy. Not unmanageable, but another risk to factor. - Wind against current is not strong and consistent enough to ensure any kind of a play-field. - Point forecasts indicate wind protection along the coast (zone = 10-20 knots /25 knot gusts) but points show less than 10 knots and diminishing during the day. - Off-shore wind is suppressing already small swell forecasts that was barely enough to provide any energy to play in the rocks. - One-way trip options either end pushing against the wind or start pushing against the tide. Both are still manageable, though. I am going to watch the forecast over the next couple of days and see if there are more changes. Please chime in with any of your thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph Berkovitz Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Given the low temps forecast, some need to catch up on things at home, and the fact that I'm planning to paddle tomorrow (Thurs), I think I'm going to skip this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfolster Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Latest ZONE forecast: NW winds 5 to 15 kt, becoming S in the afternoon. Gusts up to 25 kt. Seas 2 to 4 ft, subsiding to 1 to 2 ft in the afternoon. Point forecasts all read about 5-10 with no gusts, so will be windier offshore and better along and inside the coastline. I also don't believe we will see any of the 2-4 ft seas, as that will be offshore as well. It will be chilly, starting the trip around 25 degrees and maybe braking the freezing mark by the time we get off the water, but it should also be mostly sunny. It has been a while since I have done the Gerrish Island Circumnavigation, so I am proposing that as our trip route. We should be ready to launch by 9:30am from Kittery Point Wharf at Pepperell Cove (2 Bellamy Lane, across the street from the Post Office) and will have a beach briefing at that time, so make sure to have warm stuff to wear for that. Please PM or email robertfolster at verizon dot net with float plan info if you plan to go. I would like to have all the info by 5:00pm so I can send out copies of the float plan when I get home from work. Float Plan Info: Name and cell phone number Vehicle make, model, color, and plate number Boat make, model, and deck/hull colors Emergency contact name, relationship, and phone number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Snyder Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Sadly I'm out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David M Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm in. PMing details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karen Volkman Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 I'm in. Look forward to seeing everyone tomorrow. Will email. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mford Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Is it to late to jump in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfolster Posted February 16, 2018 Share Posted February 16, 2018 Robert says no problem send your float plan info to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mford Posted February 17, 2018 Share Posted February 17, 2018 sent info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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