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Boston Harbor Paddle--saturday, 7/26/08


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Bob B, John L. and myself will be launching from Winthrop Deer Island on Sat--BIB @11 AM. We will probably be going out to Graves and other whatnots islands--directions are in the pt-in section of NSPN trips

This is a 3+ level trip given the boat traffic, shipping lane, etc. If interested post here.

Les

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Hi Les,

Just a quick post to clarify that Common Adventure does not mean Leaderless. There seems to be some confusion regarding this. Here is a paragraph from http://www.nspn.org/trip_participation.htm

Trip Leadership. While on a Common Adventure trip, leadership is a fluid process. If someone knows the area, he assumes a leadership role, helping the group find their way. If there's an accident on the trip and someone has good first aid skills, they assume leadership. If a kayaker capsizes, another person may take over. Major decisions are made democratically as a group, with weight given to those with specialized knowledge. Often it is the trip initiator that guides the democratic process. In this process, everyone is able to express their opinions and shed light on the decision. By involving everyone, the group is able to tap all of its resources, making it far stronger than if one person tries to make all of the decisions.

So, bottom line, this is your trip, and you may choose to have it be leaderless, but, a true CAM trip does in fact have leaders.

Cheers,

Bill

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Hi Les,

Just a quick post to clarify that Common Adventure does not mean Leaderless. There seems to be some confusion regarding this. Here is a paragraph from http://www.nspn.org/trip_participation.htm

Trip Leadership. While on a Common Adventure trip, leadership is a fluid process. If someone knows the area, he assumes a leadership role, helping the group find their way. If there's an accident on the trip and someone has good first aid skills, they assume leadership. If a kayaker capsizes, another person may take over. Major decisions are made democratically as a group, with weight given to those with specialized knowledge. Often it is the trip initiator that guides the democratic process. In this process, everyone is able to express their opinions and shed light on the decision. By involving everyone, the group is able to tap all of its resources, making it far stronger than if one person tries to make all of the decisions.

So, bottom line, this is your trip, and you may choose to have it be leaderless, but, a true CAM trip does in fact have leaders.

Cheers,

Bill

Thanks Bill for the clarification of the CAM definition of trip leadership. Les

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I do believe Bill may have been a play on words, i.e. Leader-Les, or then again I may be imagining things.

(Grab your chaht - don't tell me you don't have one) As regards channel crossings, etc. a common path to the outer islands from Deer Island crosses both Boston North Channel and South Channel. This is done orthogonally buoy to buoy and if pointing more or less directly to Calf Island means 8&9 followed by 10&9. Once beyond the channels things are relatively quiet but the high-speed ferries do not appear to need to follow the channels and in general its best to avoid the path of power boats. Calf is a good pit stop on the way out as it is eminently landable and is roughly half way out. This allows for a stretch or snack as needed as well as a place for those who judge the second part of the trip beyond their skills to wait for the return of the rest of the crew. On return the crew often ends up at Boston Light, totalling roughly 15 nm. The crew on Little Brewster has been observed doing anything from welcoming to shewing kayakers wherein the opportunities range from a lighthouse, etc. tour to a quick stretch of the legs. Given the tides tomorrow there should be water between Great and Little Brewster allowing us to return directly to Calf or proceed otherwise as conditions, moods, schedules, etc. dictate.

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I'd be interested in joining you. I don't think I've paddled with any of you before, but since I live in South Boston, I paddle in Boston Harbor a lot. Usually I go solo after work and stay in among the closer islands, Thompson and Spectacle. I have gone as far out as Boston Light, so I'm familiar with the perils of the channel crossings. I like the idea of paddling with a group out there because having only one pair of eyes looking for the high speed ferries is stressful to say the least. I've also never been out to the Graves, so that interests me as well.

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I just may join you all. Is the boat ramp fairly obvious once headed to Deer Island? Haven't been there before so will be strictly on instruments ;-)

Carl C.

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I'd be interested in joining you. I don't think I've paddled with any of you before, but since I live in South Boston, I paddle in Boston Harbor a lot. Usually I go solo after work and stay in among the closer islands, Thompson and Spectacle. I have gone as far out as Boston Light, so I'm familiar with the perils of the channel crossings. I like the idea of paddling with a group out there because having only one pair of eyes looking for the high speed ferries is stressful to say the least. I've also never been out to the Graves, so that interests me as well.

welcome--see you tomorrow--les

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I just may join you all. Is the boat ramp fairly obvious once headed to Deer Island? Haven't been there before so will be strictly on instruments ;-)

Carl C.

great carl--it will be fun to paddle with you again--the boat ramp is on the right--part of the parking lot--you kinda follow your nose until you can't go anymore--you will see the parking lot on the right--les

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Les's description sounds like the put-in described as "Winthrop". The boat ramp is at the "southwest" corner of the parking lot. I had hoped to launch from Deer Island which is at the bitter end of Shirley St. I will check both places, i.e. there is one road going south that passes "Winthrop" on the way to Deer Island. If we launch at Deer Island there is no boat ramp but rather a short walk over sand/beach to the water's edge starting at the back of the parking lot. If you don't see anyone at the Winthrop parking lot you may want to check Deer Island, with a parking lot a the gates of the water treatment plant. If you drop leave an e-mail address I will provide you my cell number.

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Me too, please!

I assume that "Winthrop" is the Winthrop Harbor Boat Ramp described in the put-in list, yes? no--close but no cigar--it is on the other side--the ocean side--not the airport side--at the end--even further down the road--follow these directions but still keep driving until you get to the other side--there is a parking lot--follow bob b's description--les

Judy

Winthrop

Explore Belle Island Marsh - the OLDEST existing marshland in the United States. It is fun to paddle around the airport - water quality not great - don't want to spill - around Deer Island treatment plant and then up along the coast past north end of Winthrop, Revere beach (the oldest public beach in US) to Nahant and around then around Nahant. Take Route 1A north from Logan Airport about 1.5 miles to Route 145 (just south of Suffolk Downs). Turn right on Route 145 to Pleasant Street. Right on Pleasant (still following signs for 145). At intersection of Shirley Street and Route 145, turn right and follow Shirley Street 0.4 mile to the Winthrop Harbor Boat Ramp on the right. Free parking.

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Les's description sounds like the put-in described as "Winthrop". The boat ramp is at the "southwest" corner of the parking lot. I had hoped to launch from Deer Island which is at the bitter end of Shirley St. I will check both places, i.e. there is one road going south that passes "Winthrop" on the way to Deer Island. If we launch at Deer Island there is no boat ramp but rather a short walk over sand/beach to the water's edge starting at the back of the parking lot. If you don't see anyone at the Winthrop parking lot you may want to check Deer Island, with a parking lot a the gates of the water treatment plant. If you drop leave an e-mail address I will provide you my cell number.

please follow these directions-- much easier to get to graves from this launch--les

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